Capaldi no more? Chibnall’s ‘Doctor Who’ to have ‘clean slate’ in 2018

BBC bosses apparently want Doctor Who to feel like “a brand new show” when new showrunner Chris Chibnall takes over in 2018.

According to The Mirror, the shake-up will see Peter Capaldi and new co-star Pearl Mackie departing as the Twelfth Doctor his new companion, allowing Chibnall a “clean slate” for his era.

Capaldi has played the Doctor since 2013 and Mackie will make her debut as Bill Potts in the first episode of Season 10 next April.

Here’s everything we know so far about Season 10.

An insider source is quoted as saying: “BBC management wants a return to the format from the David Tennant era, when you had a dashing male lead and young female companion. Merchandising has dropped off sharply in recent years and there is a strong desire to boost the show’s popularity among kids.”

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Broadchurch creator Chris Chibnall was announced as the new lead writer of Doctor Who in January and his first season will launch in 2018.

He has written several previous Doctor Who episodes, such as ’42’, ‘Dinosaurs on a Spaceship’and ‘The Power of Three’. His other writing credits include Torchwood, The Great Train Robbery, United, Law & Order: UK and Life On Mars.

Chibnall commented earlier this year: “I’m relishing the thought of working with the exceptional team at BBC Wales to create new characters, creatures and worlds for the Doctor to explore.”

Here’s everything we know so far about Chris Chibnall’s era.

Do you want to see a cast shake-up in 2018? Let us know below…

  • David Ryan

    I’m always wary of tabloid reports because the insider they cite could easily be one of the staff in the canteen. Regardless of what these unnamed BBC bosses want I would hope Chibnall is willing to let Capaldi continue if he so wishes

  • Matt Littledyke

    In come’s the speculation on who might replace him.

    • SMC

      Nobody. That is, for people who “get” Capaldi, there is no replacement, especially no kid. We’ll have to look elsewhere for the qualities we love. Not the end of the world, but the end, very probably, of DW as a program of any significance. Reactionary policies are deeply destructive. They may prevail for a while, but everything they touch turns to sludge.

  • Andrew Dirks

    The last time something of this scale happened to the show we got the 4th Doctor… *shrug*

    • Etrielle

      No, worse, the last time this thought process happened we got ‘The Movie’ which is embarrassingly predictable, unoriginal and just plain bad.

      • Andrew Dirks

        We don’t talk about the 8th Doctor… lol

        At least not his movie, his audio adventures aren’t terrible.

        • Etrielle

          He’s great in the Big Finish audio stories, and judging from the mini-episodes he was a victim of bad writing. Johnny Depp could not have fixed that movie, Benedict could not have saved that B grade mess. Poor Paul McGann, he never really got his chance, not really.

  • Rich Harvey

    Great. We finally get rid of stupid love story and now they want to force it back on us. Just focus on the sci fi/fantasy/horror and leave the rest alone, please?

    • Etrielle

      Yes, plus they will axe the humor, whimsy, intelligence and the very aspects that make our beloved show original and timeless. Another freaking love story? I thought they were moving on from that. River popping in and out every so often is enough romance for the show, and frankly the only love story in the show worth watching. Can’t believe the producers would go back to the mindset that brought us ‘The Doctor Who Movie’ dear goodness, anything but that! Did they even watch season 9? Probably not, no one did thanks to it not available to over half the population. ):

      • SMC

        The love story in S8-9 was good — so good, so intelligent and insightful, that there’s no way Chibnal or anybody else could match it, so no, *don’t* do some idiotic lousy re-run of it with a new Doctor and pretty girl — those “kids” are not coming back, unless DW is cut back to pure comic book level in a feeble bid to rival Marvel et al.

        In which case — your fan base will shrink, not grow. After an initial falling away, then we’ll see, and I don’t think the show will flourish. Such a pity.

    • StillCantBanMe

      sure, once that’s as profitable as teen girl NuWho.

      • SMC

        Pointing fingers at “teen girls” is, to put it mildly, narrow minded. It’s not the teen girls who fixed on Tennant who make the decisions about what sort of actor and Doctor get served up in a given season. It’s the BBC people who control programming: they’re the ones who decide whether or not, and if yes then now, to aim for a particular demographic. They choose who to cater to. Sometimes they’re right (in their terms), sometimes wrong, sometimes just miss-timed in their decisions. Simplistic thinking throws no light.

        • StillCantBanMe

          Yyyyyyyeah, so you’re not only a moron but a loser who doesn’t have any familiarity with women.

          • SMC

            Oh, dear. Terrible argument. But it’s over now. I don’t chat with people whose first, or maybe second, resort is name-calling and wild guesses intended to be witty. It’s okay; you’ll grow up, like it or not.

  • MargaretL

    Appalling, if true. Dumbing down and appealing to the lowest common denominator rarely gets results. More a recipe to kill off the show which will already be struggling with the change of showrunner to one with a very weak CV as a writer and who has failed to deliver even one halfway decent script for Who in the past and who is the author of abominations written for Torchwood and the embarrassment that was Broadchurch 2. Surely there could not be a stronger case for some initial continuity by retaining at least the leads for their first series.

    Instead of trying to kill off the program in this way, why don’t the BBC bosses actually nurture and promote what they have got. Series 9 is the best reviewed in the show’s history and generally regarded, along with series 5, as the creative high point in new Who and Peter Capaldi has universal acclaim for his tour de force performance. While there was some loss of viewers between series 8 and 9, this appears to be mostly down to the BBC’s erratic scheduling and virtually zero promotion or build up for series 9 when it was first shown. This mishandling has been acknowledged through Charlotte Moore’s apology to fans and undertaking to treat series 10 with the appropriate level of support and respect it warrants as one of the BBC’s flagship dramas and to make it the centrepiece of their 2017 schedule. It should also be remembered that the hiatus in 2016 is entirely of the BBC’s own making due to its failure to find a replacement for Steven Moffat in a timely way. It is Moffat whom the BBC should thank for stepping back in at the last moment to make series 10 to show in 2017, otherwise we would have had to wait for Chibnall to finish Broadchurch and produce series 10 in 2018. Let’s not even mention how much the BBC owe Moffat in making the show the massive international success that it is today, with series 9 creating record viewing figures in the US and Australia and breaking new markets around the world. Simply put, the big picture is that the current show has never been more popular globally, nor more well regarded.

    To have the merchandise tail wagging the creative body of the show and proposing returning to a smug, facile Tennant style lead – all style with no substance – or the sub-Twilight storylines of that era based simply to shift product speaks volumes about what ails the BBC today. At least we will have a terrific series 10 with the superb Peter Capaldi leading us through intelligently written and heartfelt scripts before we descend into the kind of pap the article implies will be Chibnall’s Who. Count me out

    • StillCantBanMe

      dumbing down made Who HUGE in the 21st century. The show is retarded and an insult to classic Who.

      • SMC

        Sorry, but that’s nonsense. The dumbing down has yet to come . . . and if these plans are carried out, it won’t be pretty.

        • StillCantBanMe

          If you don’t think it’s been incredibly dumb, you’re part of the problem. SAVED BY THE POWER OF LOOOOOOOOVE

          • SMC

            Baloney. Saved, lately, by the powers of insight and stepping back from selfishness. None of that is something to deride — unless you’re a pre-teen snickering and catcalling at displays of high regard and affection (pre-teen in the sense of mental maturity, which state can go on and on for quite a long time, for the unlucky and un-brave).

  • Bardotti

    This smacks of ageism. Seems to be putting the blame on Peter Capaldi for not being a pretty boy Tennant type. Sheesh.

    • Etrielle

      He was the best thing that happened to season 8. The episodes in season 8, save three of them, were deadly boring, but I still liked Capaldi, it was the stories that were dry. Season 9 was BRILLIANT, and no one saw it. If more people had seen season 9 they would be protesting about the loss of Capaldi. This has been a global month of poor choices ):

      • SMC

        I think lots of people saw S9. I just wonder if any of the bosses at BBC bothered to.

        • StillCantBanMe

          No, because their job is to run a business and S8 and especially 9 were a bust. Viewing figures are not opinions.

          • SMC

            Nope, not getting into the “viewing figures” argument. Life’s too short. And I can see why some folks might *want* to ban you. So I’ll do my own ban. Bye!

          • StillCantBanMe

            Because it’s an “argument” you can’t win because numbers are facts, retard.

    • SMC

      God, I was desperately turned off by Tenant. Walked away, in fact. With yet another kid-hero, I’ll give up on this and wander on, but so it goes. Everything changes, sooner or later, and not often for the better.

  • James Calcutt

    I’d rather you clarify in your reports where the source is from… following the link leads to a Doctor Who fan account, which leads to a fan website’s article about rumours from a Daily Mail article. The Daily Mail, The Daily Mail is never a reliable source for entertainment news, they literally just make their stories up based on guesswork

  • alyzu

    I REALLY hope it’s not true.
    And, BTW, “A dashing male lead and a young female companion”? They’ve already got that.

    • Jessie Willson

      Agreed! I think Peter Capaldi is incredibly sexy.

  • Isa Gunther

    Capaldi has been asked by the BBC to stay on at least through 2018.

    • SMC

      Would he, though, if that’s true? Not enough challenge for him to stay, I would think. Intelligent, highly talented professionals get bored when confined in the teeny, stupid boxes their bosses construct for them. Steven Moffat blew the DW box open, IMO, in daring and creative ways, and Capaldi flourished on that energy. I doubt he’d enjoy going back in a narrow, child-centered box after S10, particularly if “Class” has been designed to be the “more mature” show while DW is pressed back into kiddie-aimed shape (with bits of clever innuendo and gravity for the adults in the room) and primarily intended as a marketing tool for Doctor-themed tchachkis.

  • m wallace

    well sound more like a plan to kill the show!

    • Etrielle

      If that’s what they are planning it will have the same result as the Doctor Who movie, which had the same intentions. ): I loved season 9, but no one saw it. If they would put some energy into getting people who stopped watching mid-season eight to continue watching, they would not be having this drop-off in viewing. Season 9 was brilliant. You are right, it would kill the show if they go through with it.

  • SavvinaVvi

    The problem is NOT that we need a ”dashing male lead and young female companion”. Get your heads straight. The problem is that we need GOOD STORIES. You have a brilliant, charming, beautiful actor and you do nothing with him. NOTHING. He could be the best Doctor of new who but his episodes are not treated right. DON’T LET PETER CAPALDI GO!!!!!!!! Just write him good stories!! Please, tell me that I’m not the only one that wants him to break Tom Baker’s record..

    • SayWhat?

      Honestly, Moffat is long past his best before date on the show and has been for a while (save for the 50th anniversary). I’d love to see Capaldi’s Doctor handled by a different showrunner. So much potential.

      • SavvinaVvi

        I agree so much to this. Moffat should have left after Matt’s regeneration. The second part of the 7th season was so boring to me personally, but the 50th anniversary and Matt’s last episode were amazing episodes. And should be his lasts.
        I’ve read before that BBC asked Peter Capaldi to stay at least until 2018, hope that it’s still true and all this rumors about him leavning are just a bad, bad, BAD joke..

  • Etrielle

    Why would they turn the one original show on television into another bombastic/damsel/hero “boringer” instead of focusing on what makes Doctor Who different and wonderful? I love that it’s interesting, whimsical, hilarious and thought-provoking at the same time. What other show is like that? Peter Capaldi became my favorite doctor in season 9. That’s part of the problem, NO ONE I know has seen season 9! Season 8 had some seriously predictable and boring episodes, and many people stopped watching, but that means they MISSED SEASON 9, which was one of the BEST seasons of television in the history of sci-fi, if not television itself.

    The current BBC sounds like they have the same intentions that the people who made the Doctor Who movie had….and we all know how that went! Most fans can not admit to liking one thing about that movie outside of McGann’s acting, and the producers had the EXACT same intention going into that mess, so be afraid. Please keep Doctor Who weird, intelligent, whimsical and funny, it’s the only show that is all of those wonderful qualities and more.

    Want to impress the kids? Keep it smart, funny and interesting, most kids don’t like romance and until they are at least 14 most kids get nightmares from scary movies, so wrong direction for the kids BBC. What the management means is to aim for teen girls because they tend to buy a lot of stuff. Anyone willing to pay $20 for lipstick is a very particular demographic – one that is willing to pay a lot for junk.

    Plus, I know actors like to move on, but please beg Capaldi to stay on with every power of persuasion in the arsenal fellow fans.

    • Sue_DeNimm

      Etrielle, well I certainly saw season 9 and I agree with one point and disagree with another point, both very strongly. I’ve been a fan since the original series and think that I’ve seen every existing TV episode now; Season 9 was the worst that I have ever seen; there was not one episode that I enjoyed. Dreadful. What kept me watching? The same thing that kept me watching the Colin Baker era. A really enjoyable actor chewing the scenery and running amok through some absolutely dreadful scripts (not that Colin’s scripts were anywhere near THIS bad). Heaven Sent was the least bad episode not because of the script which was as bad as the rest – it had undiluted great acting. I just dread to think what Moffat will offer in his final series in charge.

      I do see what you mean between the Producers of the TV movie and the current idea from the BBC (if true). Let’s hope that there is a difference between the powers that be at the BBC and Chibnall’s new team.

      Doctor Who survives by constantly moving forwards; if you want to move backwards, there are better eras than the Tenth Doctor’s to choose from.

  • StillCantBanMe

    well yeah, kids and teen girls are the main fanbase. it’s about being pretty and having hashtag catchphrases. an old man and a tranny aren’t selling things.

  • Craig Forshaw

    Interesting fact: Chris Chibnall’s episodes are some of the worst of Doctor Who’s entire run.

    • David Havers

      Moffat’s stories are regarded as some of the best during the RTD era of the show. Now look where the show is. Chibnall will bring in some new ideas, which the show has needed for a while.

      • SMC

        Maybe, but I am not counting on it. Meanwhile, I’ve bought S8 and S9 because (with a couple of notable exceptions) they are so damn good. Strokes and folks.

      • Craig Forshaw

        Yeah, but the RTD era was average at best, and filled with some appalling television at times. Large parts of season one (first two, anything with the Slitheen in, which was THREE episodes), two (Love and Monsters and Fear Her ground that series to a halt), and three (almost the whole series until the two-parter where The Doctor is human, and Blink) were atrocious. Even the specials were a bit all over the place.

        Meanwhile, with Moffat, the jokes have been consistently funny, the drama has been consistently dramatic, the show hasn’t bogged itself down with endless bits of exposition and the needless stringing out of mysteries, the character work has been a thousand times better than the bland and over-rated Tennant era. The majority of the people complaining seem to think that Doctor Who should be the sci-fi equivalent of Bake Off or Jamie Oliver – safe, predictable and completely unchallenging in any way. Even when it hasn’t hit the usual high notes, it has done so taking risks and trying to do something new.

        But if you look at Chibnall’s work, aside from Life on Mars and the first season of Broadchurch, it has been pants – and even Life on Mars can’t be used as his co-writers on the show have generally been consistently excellent on other shows. His episodes of Doctor Who have been either plain awful, or a hodge-podge of disparate ideas that somehow fail to work. His best episode was about Dinosaurs on a Spaceship, which was goofy fun for all the fam – oh, wait, no, The Doctor straight up murders a dude in a sombre, tonally inconsistent finale. Broadchurch, meanwhile, had even its fans switching off after season one because it became a boring slog – and, you know what, if he had the Doctor Who gig then, that could be why he took his eye off the ball, which would be even worse than just being a bad writer. And then there is the first two seasons of Torchwood – tonally inconsistent, lazy, poorly scripted, prone to shock tactics and devoid of anything like a decent idea for large parts of its run, it wasn’t until RTD led the Nigel Kneale style revival with Children of Earth that it became watchable for the first time.

        So, based on his past work, we can expect tonal inconsistency, a mess of ideas that don’t gel together well, stretches of dullness, dull shock tactics, and probably a return to, “lets gut the budget and set episodes on Earth so The Doctor can hang out with real people”. I cannot help but think that Chibnall is seen as a safe pair of hands and someone who will let the BBC start to gut the budget so they can do more lavish, revisionist history Tory-baiting bollocks, because given the talent that there is out there that they could have hired instead it is insane that they would hand it to someone with a distinct lack of vision.

  • Chris Vargas

    Chinball, the man who made the doctor in to an outright murderer, who enjoyed killing in Dinosaurs in a Spaceship? I miss Davies. 🙁

    • Charlieboy

      And, yet, Moffat was the Producer, and let him do it!

  • Amanda Kessel

    What bugs me about this is that this director thinks the Doctor has to be young, dashing or for that matter a female companion for it to survive. If u look back when it 1st started the time lord was an old man and his companions were both male and female which to the fans the story and concepts made people fall in love with it. I hope the new director doesn’t do this, there are other things that can be done to get more viewers, keep the basics with the Doctor and what has kept the show going for so many years. Hopefully Peter will stay on longer, if not enjoy him as the Doctor as long as he is playing the character.

  • Garry Baldridge

    Thank God.

  • russell

    IF you can’t get someone like Peter to stay for more than three years, then who will? If this report is true, then I’m massively disappointed; though not entirely surprised. Allowing Chris his own vision makes sense ( though I’d hoped Peter might continue ).
    Problems for his time on the programme? : Making Peter at the start, TOO cold and distant. Keeping an old companion TOO long. NOT having a fresh beginning; but instead carrying over story threads. A LACK of new/original ideas…best demonstrated by a dearth of new threats, creatures: too much dependence on the past. No attempt made, to appeal to/ entertain children through commercial means. Dr Who is entertainment. In today’s world of mega bucks competition, it is not a crime- nor shallow, to offer toys or games based upon concepts presented within the format. Such endeavour, is the life blood, of successful family film-making. Convoluted storytelling…whose themes and notions paid scant regard for the casual viewer…often making little sense. DRAMA, that was often derived from characters bickering or being insulting; rather than drawn from emotion ( warmth ), or well plotted situations which might crank up the tension…..I could go on…but you might think that I don’t like the programme…perhaps true. I don’t simply like it – I LOVE IT. Here’s hoping then, that the next 14 episodes are classics everyone for the magnificent – true great, PETER CAPALDI.

  • Kelsonus

    Good stories are paramount
    Having Capaldi go?
    I wasn’t excited for him taking the reins, and while I appreciate his work, I won’t miss him.

  • Robert Hassler

    Capaldi has got to go! He just totally sucked the regeneration out of the Doctor. Who wants to watch? Apparently nobody! Sales are down, viewership is down and nobody gave a flip about him being gone all this time. If it would have been Matt or David we would have all been calling, emailing and or visiting the BBC on an hourly basis demanding more Who.

  • Ian Westercamp

    Problem isn’t Capaldi…the problem is shit writing like those fucking “mucous monsters”…seriously, what the shit yo?

    Capaldi is great. He’s an angsty teen punk rocker and he has been for the past 3-4 decades. He’s got what we want, but they keep writing everything into the ground.
    Crappy pseudo-sci-fi, companions and peers who keep treating him like he’s old…no one giving him the benefit of the doubt because he’s a couple decades their elder.

    The man’s got dramatic flair and class. Fucking write something for him that isn’t complete shit. The zygon speech was the GREATEST fucking moment the character of the Doctor ever had. EVER. OF all time. He can do it. Get better writers.

    ~Timelord of Tassel Ridge

    • russell

      Thumbs up Ian

    • Ian Gerard Westercamp

      And I’d know…

      ’cause I’m either crazy…or I go back and boot-strap this damn thing.

  • Jo Raine

    It will be a travesty if this happens. Peter Capaldi is a great Doctor and has the potential to be up there with the best (T Baker). Dashing young men are highly overrated.

    • SMC

      He’s already up there, IMO. But I’ll be sad to see him go, if that’s what he does.

      • MargaretL

        Agree. Capaldi touched greatness in series 9. The best of the best already, eclipsing Matt and Tom IMO. Unfortunately the dolts in the Beeb are treating him like cr@p. I am sure series 10 is going to be a belter so it will be nice for Moffat, Capaldi and Pearl to use that as the ultimate two finger salute before they go and Chibbers can have his vacuous Tennant clone and use the show to sell tons of merchandise, rather than enchant, challenge, entertain and amaze families in the way Matt and now Peter have done in the lead.

        • SMC

          “Vacuous Tennant clone” — well put. I’m a non-fan of Tennant himself, let alone some plastic baby knock-off waiting in the wings. I came back for Eccleston, but Tennant himself turned me off so completely that I walked away for a while, and went from “fan” to “casual viewer” with Smith.

          But, although I saw the first series (and pretty much forgot it immediately), and came on board again with Pertwee and Tom Baker, I can’t say I “grew up with” the Doctor and have been a fanatical watcher, so I can take it or leave it without a lot of angst.

          Capaldi leaving so soon, though, if that happens, is probably a deal-breaker for me. For what that’s worth, which clearly — measured against sales of DW tat for the BBC coffers — is less than even measurable.

          • MargaretL

            I agree. Having no talent Chibnall after Moffat is already a joke but replacing Capaldi with another bland “actor” like Tennant cast solely to appeal to a particular demographic would be the final straw. Most upsetting is how disrespectful this is to both Moffat and Capaldi who have worked tirelessly to make the show into the massive international success it is now. Shame on you BBC for putting money ahead of quality yet again. The move to make Who yet another generic sci fi show will bite them big time when viewers leave in droves.

          • Charlieboy

            Chibnall is already a Showrunner and writer. Moffat is the joke!

          • SMC

            Well, we’ll see, won’t we?

          • Charlieboy

            One thing about not growing up with the Doctor, in your day, was the high quality of other memorable dramas!

          • SMC

            I don’t know about that . . . there were some excellent shows and show series in the US, like Playhouse 90, Twighlight Zone for short form fiction. I remember one-offs like “Tragedy in a Temporary Town”, “Patterns”, “Marty”, filmed stage plays by O’Neil and Williams, and so on, over the years. But frankly, there was a whole lot *more* of the staple fare of the day: Westerns (Gunslinger, Palladin, Gunsmoke, Rifleman), cop and courtroom shows (Dragnet and all the rest), and Hospital soaps without end. Taken as a whole, it was pretty awful — the “wasteland” described by a famous study of TV quality.

            I guess we had our share of the good and the bad, but it wasn’t what I would call a “Golden Age” — so much of it was cheesy, stiff, and amateurish, full of cliches or long pretentious silences, more characterized by high energy than actual quality: new medium, low budgets, exciting possibilities! If you want Golden Age tv, look around right now — the blossoming of cable and satellite tv into outfits producing their own series has prodded networks to do better (Black Mirror, Broadchurch, Stranger Things, True Detective #1, Top of the Lake, The Returned (french original, although the Australian take on it — “Glitch” — is pretty damn good too), Sense8 . . . ). There’s a lot more high-quality competition out there now, IMO, than there’s ever been.

          • Charlieboy

            Well, I’m not American.

          • SMC

            You can get the Netflix, Amazon, and Hulu original shows, though, right? Maybe not?

          • Charlieboy

            Why would I want to pay more?

  • Timothy Fisher

    Yeah, not a great way to start the Chinball era.

    • Charlieboy

      Its a great start. New Doctor, new companion, new direction!

      • Timothy Fisher

        Yeah, but it’s a tradition for Who fans to hate change, which is sort-of a paradox. 😉

        • Charlieboy

          Nothing wrong with change. We’ve had 6 series of the same from Moffat!

        • Charlieboy

          Change is good!

          • SMC

            Depends on who’s doing the changing, and for what purposes. “Marketing reasons” are rarely good for creative projects.

          • russell

            FOR ME, the ” marketing reasons ” you suggest are not so black and white SMC. If you’re purely trying to flog something, then perhaps this might be seen as pureile; however, many memorable- and still successful- characters/formats have been created via this approach: He-man, Transformers, to name but a few. Dr Who- of course- is better than these things. It has more depth.It is about storytelling at its heart. But it was built upon the audiences favourable reaction to it. Crystalized by the 1960’s Dalekmania. It was popular and people wanted more. The programme was ” exploited ” to fill this demand ( overseas sells..toys and games etc). It is alright to have a high and mighty attitude to such things ( stand up Brian Minchin), but to ignore such potential, is to overlook three constant truths. 1) There is a section of the audience who actually ENJOY and WANT merchandise.2) Such a reaction, is a MARK OF SUCCESS. 3) A television programme like WHO, is a product of showbusiness. People often tend to forget The BUSINESS part of the” show.” No interest- no profit, NO programme simple as that! When making fantastic entertainment that people want to watch, those who are good at it, recognise certain opportunities to ” exploit “…stand up and wave Disney/Pixar/ Warner Bros. Potter/Scamander etc.This is not a sin,but business. The more money WHO generates- the longer it will continue…it could demand GREATER INVESTMENT ( larger budgets). I don’t know about you…but how disappointing, that the 2015 xmas “special”, had to re-use sets from the earlier ” face the raven”. I’VE been saying it for ages, but Peter’s time on the show would benefit massively from a concerted effort to create a NEW Daleks, for a NEW generation. There would only be winners in my opinion from such a tv tale!

          • Ranting Ol’ rus

            Opps…mistakes: puerile ( better replaced with tacky). Yikes…: sells (ought to be sales)…..I’m going to lay off the sauce for a while. Even more worrying because I don’t drink!

          • Charlieboy

            I agree that change for the sake of Marketing reasons is never good, for any tv show. When a Producer leaves, and a new one comes in, sure, make changes. But, don’t make changes so that there are more new aliens and villains only to make money from toys!
            A new Doctor and companion is not unreasonable for the new showrunner.

      • SMC

        Not yet, Charlie. Not yet. Your “great start” is premature.

  • MargaretL

    2016 really seems to be shaping up as the year of pandering. Make Who Great Again I hear the BBC say. Yeah, let’s throw out the grown ups and cast based on what teenage girls can turn into a meme and take the show back to infantile story lines. All that clever stuff is obviously bad for people. We want them to buy stuff and not have to think too much. Oh and while we are at it, let’s cast a clone of that guy all the teenage girls screamed over. Just make sure he has interesting hair, is good at gurning and doesn’t in any way resemble, you know, an alien. Make sure he has spunky young companions who throw themselves at him every scene and he gets to wink at the camera. Actual acting ability not required as long as we can sell loads of action figures and posters.

    Glad Capaldi and Moffat will get to leave with their dignity intact at least before the BBC make yet another of their brilliant programming decisions based on popularity polls, rather than fact or actually giving the viewers what they want.

    • SMC

      Don’t blame girls; there are plenty of immature boys (of all ages) out there who just want another weightless “superhero” with lots of explosions, just like all the rest rest of the damn giant dodos in idiot costumes.

    • Charlieboy

      What dignity?

      • SMC

        The dignity of creatives working at the top of their bent. If you can’t see it, your loss. *shrug*

  • Peg

    That sucks. Big time. Capaldi is my favorite Doctor ever, even more than Tom Baker. This is grim–much too jarring a change.

    • Charlieboy

      How is it too jarring a change? When Tennant left, you had a new Doctor, and a new companion. And, a new Producer.

      • Peg

        The new producer was part of the old team, to begin with. And the shift came in mid-Tennant era, after the end of the Bad-Wolf cycle. Tennant was in place, Donna Noble came in, and Moffat took over after a long apprenticeship with Davies. There was a strong feeling of continuity and carry-over. And–the article sums it up quite nicely with the BBC informant suggesting they *want* it to feel like a whole new show. Different actor, different companion, different producer who’s not even a steady part of the old team suggests no feeling of carry-over. (shrug) As I said, to me that suggests a perfect time to simply quit watching, especially if you liked the old show in its varied but connected permutations. It’s very much like the dismay people feel hearing of the upcoming changes facing “The Great British Bake-Off.” Strip the feeling of continuity and you pretty much screw the pooch. The new show may be good, too–but it’s not going to be much like the old one. If you liked the old one, you’re not going to be very happy.

        • Charlieboy

          Chibnall is getting involved with series 10, according to other forums. He is “overseeing” it.

          • SMC

            Oh . . . s**t. I don’t think that’s good news.

          • Charlieboy

            He has to, so he can write himself out of the crap Moffat will leave behind. If he does want a new Doctor and companion, Moffat will have to write them out!

          • SMC

            Moffat leaves behind (so far as I can see now) a wonderful pair of seasons working with Capaldi. If Chibnal can do work even in the same ball park, we’ll all be very lucky. If not — *shrug*. The good stuff is still there, accessible to anyone in s search of good stuff.

          • Peg

            Me, either. Honestly, when people start talking “whole new show,” you’re looking at throwing the old fans under the bus in hopes of getting nice, shiny new fans. What usually ends up happening is not a good old show OR a good new show.

        • Jessica Cobden

          Peg. Why would you want to stop watching? The show has always changed. Thrived on it. Big changes behind and infront of the camera have included: Power of the Daleks. Inferno. Terror of the Autons. The Ark in Space. Horror of Fang Rock. The Leisure Hive. Earthshock. Vengence on Varos. Remembrance of the Daleks. The tv movie. Rose. The Eleventh Hour… Classics to some all. Chill out guys, this is Doctor Who we’re talking about. Not some kind of average crappy programme

  • Peg

    I mean, the more I think of it–they already lost “The Great British Bake-Off.” Now they want to screw around with one of their other reliable series–another that pulls in a foreign audience? And they are stuck with “Sherlock” as bi- or tri-annual show, so that reduces those ratings. Do the silly beggars WANT to make it easy for a conservative government to see them as hopelessly clueless and unsuccessful? Come on, Capaldi is wonderful, Billy looks interesting, and a “clean slate” really means “an easy point to quit watching the show.”

  • Zerolemis

    For god’s sake, no, no, no. Peter is a great doctor, and when you look back years after you will see Series 9 is one of the best series since it rebooted – and no, we don’t need any of those shallow love stories or dashing young doctors. We need your attention and care for the show. Keep it on screen. Broadcast it before 8. Count the iplayer into overnight rate.

  • Alan Jeacock

    Merchandise sales are poor because the merchandise is shit. The figures have lost the standard by shrinking them to giJoe size. ALL the stores hav marvel and dc etc on everything but all I can find in town is a calender. Why can’t they licence out for pyjamas and t shirts that aren’t over 20. Would sell a lot more. And I want capaldi to stay. Hes just getting goin.

    • Charlieboy

      Merchandise sales are down because 1 – There was a glutton of merchandise to mark the 50th, and 2 – There was no series in 2016. It doesn’t help that ratings dropped, too!

  • SMC

    Yes, but not “let him stick around”. Keep the job interesting and fun enough for him to *want* to stick around to do more of it.

  • Bardotti

    Well at least we have series 9 to cherish as a beacon of creative brilliance before we plunge back into the gloop of Tennant style lowest common denominator sclock. We simply don’t deserve Capaldi and may he shine his magnificence, integrity and artistic commitment elsewhere. For one shining moment we had it all (mind, series 10 is looking damn fine so at least the show will go out on a real high in its golden age before the dead hand of mediocrity falls on it).

    • SMC

      Bardotti — My feelings exactly. Back to the rule of the marketplace means back to boredom pitched to sixteen-year olds (of both genders) with too much $ in their pockets: all action all the time, no matter how meaningless, stupid dialog full of immature snark, *no* time for reflection about anything at all, growth, or the development of any kind of depth. Sad, sad, sad. If that’s what happens.

      Peter Capaldi’s first two seasons will still be his gift to all of us who delighted in the ambition and audacity of the Moffat/Capaldi team. There’s still that.

  • Silent Bob

    Should have just left Clara and the Doctor together. Some of the best episodes in a long time with Capaldi and Coleman.

    Oh, and I don’t care if anyone disagrees with me. I just assume you enjoy being wrong. 😉

    • Charlieboy

      Clara stayed far too long!

      • SMC

        Not for me; it was worth it, to get that multi-layered resolution that accomplished so much while tying up loose ends.

  • River Storm

    this is the type of bullshit they always pull. Sure, the new folk might like it because it’ll be as trashy as everything else that exists and the rest of us will just go back to watching the old shows. This is making me like the Tennant era less and less. I am sick of the sob story of the doctor falling in love with some dumbass human chick that is useless and easily replaceable… like Rose, Angela, etc. He needs a companion not a bitch to fuck. Jeez!

    • SMC

      Nice sexist sample there, “River”. Ugh. Though I agree with you on one thing: we just had a fantastic love story, too good to follow up with some pale drivel between a callow boy-Doctor and an equally callow girl. Going in a different direction now would be dandy — maybe civil war on Gallifrey for the Doctor to get drawn into? I’d like to see Gallifrey taken up as a central issue.

  • HZ1

    I continue to be disgusted about the treatment Peter Capaldi has had and the nasty sneering comments about his age from the moment he was cast. It’s not just the obnoxious Tennant fangirls this time whining that their ‘hottie Doc’ has left – that’s to be expected. It’s the lack of respect by others who should know better for such a brilliant actor and how amazingly interesting and complex his Doctor has been. Pretending that there was some golden age when Tennant was running around being mopey and emo is just the latest BS. Capaldi is a million times the actor Tennant is or could ever hope to be. How can the BBC say they want to freshen it up and have a clean slate when they turn around and say they want to return the show to the dregs of RTD/Tennant. Sometimes I wonder if there isn’t a deliberate ploy to kill off the show as it currently exists and just turn the whole thing into a great big merch factory.

    • Charlieboy

      Irrelevant of what “fans” think of Capaldi, his character has been all over the place, the scripts have been awful, and Capaldi can’t decide on what to wear. The characterization is a mess. Capaldi is at fault for that!

      • SMC

        If you say so — true for you. For me, the Doctor isn’t a fanboy dream of super-herodom, forever zipped into the same stupid muscle-tights or twenty copies of the same suit and tie (or celery). Capaldi’s Doctor has clearly been too complex a person for you; not for everybody, thank god, which is why DW has lasted so long . . . it’s NOT the Muppets (no offense intended, just fact).

        • Charlieboy

          Capaldis Doctor isn’t complex, his characterisation just isn’t working. Its his stories that are badly written!

          • SMC

            For you; if you read comments in various discussion boards, you’ll see that for many DW fans, Capaldi’s Doctor “works” not just well, but excellently, and with very satisfying shades of complexity. Your loss, just as Tennant was mine — he had many adoring fans, but some (myself among them) found his Doctor more irritating than anything else. Opinions . . . half the fun of discussing stories.

  • J__o__h__n

    I was looking forward to seeing Capaldi with a new writer. He is one of the best actors to have played the Doctor and I want more of him. I liked Moffatt, but like Clara, he stayed too long. Perhaps the fact that the show hasn’t been on for a year could be contributing to lack of sales. If they need money from merchandising, sell figures of past companions. Did they stop the minifigures to make just one Lego set? Replace the merchandising team not the Doctor if sales are down. Perhaps sales of sonic screwdrivers dipped when any pair of sunglasses could be the stupid sonic sunglasses.

  • Colin Nichol

    All tabloid rumours. Chris Chibnail has appeared on BBC tv in the 1980s before he became employed in the world of tv and gave his views on Who as a fan. Cant see him being told by someone whoever they may be and no doubt with little experience/history of Who on how to make his series. Also his final series of Broadchurch (not mentioning some of the cast who has appeared have starred in Who) still to air, can see Mr C surrounded by people interfering and telling him to do this and that and how to end this hit series. Somehow I doubt it. All scaremongering from goodness knows all
    to get attention

  • MargaretL

    Sometimes fandom really does make you doubt your faith in humanity. So much hatred spewing forth about Moffat and Capaldi. Sure, it’s fine to dislike someone based on rational argument but regardless, just remember that if it wasn’t for Moffat’s and Capaldi’s lifelong love of the show, there would have been a 2 year wait for series 10, Chibnall or not. Moffat wanted to leave with the beautiful elegaic Husbands of River Song but stepped into the breach to deliver series 10 in 2017 because the tw*ts in the BBC totally screwed up finding his successor. So many turned it down before they had to settle on Chibnall at the last moment who was committed to turning out another rubbish series of Boredchurch, yet they knew from at least the 50th that Moffat wanted to leave in 2015. He had to put his own post Who plans on hold to do the show a favour and now the BBC want to steamroll his legacy and return the show to the puerile pap of the Tennant years just to sell merchandise to gullible young girls.

    I just hope Moffat gets to give the BBC a big two fingered salute but his greatest revenge will ironically be delivering what is shaping up to be an amazing series 10 which could top series 9 as the greatest in modern Who. All the signs are there.

    • SMC

      Not of Chibnal is already messing around with it . . .

  • Marcie

    While not happy with this news and believe it will be the deathknell for the show when ratings are holding up well considering the overall drop in television viewers here and viewership across the world has never been higher and continues to grow massively and quality of acting and writing so good, as long as Peter goes on his own terms I will be satisfied. Wasn’t intending to warch Chibnall Who anyway, so if Peter won’t be there makes the decision even easier for me at least..

  • BettyBoop

    Honestly Peter Capaldi is a brilliant actor! Enough of the kissy face Romance garbage! I loved the relationship The Doctor had with Clara. He truly cared for her. Loved her in a platonic way yet so very deeply. Plus Peter took us on a history journey that new Whovians needed to go on to maybe understand some of the reasons why the decisions were being made years later. We don’t need companions falling in love with The Doctor sorry.

  • Brizvegasgal

    Facepalm.

    Do the BBC executives over there actually look at the show. Series 9 = BEST series in nuWho, Peter Capaldi = BEST actor ever in the part, 12th Doctor = BEST portrayal combining elements of previous doctors with layers of character yet to be revealed, Moffat/Capaldi = BEST creative team in nuWho, Heaven Sent = BEST written and acted story in nuWho.

    Now they want to swap that for a return to a Doctor whose defining characteristics are narcissism, shallowness and smugness , who spent all his time making kissy kissy with his companions and an actor cast solely for his looks and who never found a line he couldn’t destroy by shouting or gurning and stories which were pitched at credulous viewers with the attention span of a goldfish.

    Maybe, just maybe the reason merchandise sales have dropped recently is because of the constant production delays caused by the BBC, combined with the lack of actual 12th Doctor branded merchandise to sell (it is impossible to find any 12th Doctor merchandise in Australia despite this being the second biggest audience for the show in the world after the UK with viewership rising massively only once Moffat took over – Smith, not Tennant is the most popular and well known doctor here and Capaldi series have had the highest viewing figures of any doctor). Also the rise of the MCU has sucked sales out of other franchises.

    Rather than making Capaldi the scapegoat, maybe the BBC should step into the Hall of Mirrors for a good hard look at itself.

  • Snipezorz

    I’m confused why they would want to do this. Minus some of the stories being meager, and plot holes, people across the world love it the way it is. Why change it? I personally love Capaldi’s Doctor, he’s my favorite. BBC did say they wanted Capaldi at least for season 11. Granted that was back in February. Maybe something has changed, or maybe this is just a fake rumor to make me stress, or just to test the waters.

    • Brizvegasgal

      This just doesn’t take into account that it is the current show which the world loves. The show never took off outside the UK until Moffat became the show runner and Matt was the Doctor we all fell in love with. For whatever reason, it just clicked with those 2 when it never got off the ground with RTD. Return it to the RTD Tennant years and you will lose the oversead audience who just found the production qualities of that era very substandard (direction, lighting, editing, SFX) and the lead was just a cut out square jawed bloke we saw in every other SciFi show where the female lead lusted after him. Plus the stories were mostly dull. Matt though was so different, quirky, silly, dangerous,alien, his eyes though were those of a wise old man. Peter is also completely different again, crusty, guarded, loves life and can be silly, loves humans but we exasperate him too! Stories now are much more complex and meaty and it’s fun to try to outwit the Doctor to find the answer. I think this is just another anti-Moffat piece probably all made up by reading some of the nasty comments those people put on discussion boards just to sound ‘cool’ by hating on what most people like and to have an opinion outside the mainstream. Capaldi is ace. Matt is still my favourite but Peter is really close. Series 9 though is probably my favourite with series 5. Heaven Sent though is my all time favourite episode. Christmas episode looks fab and I bet it breaks viewing records (again) here in Oz and in US.

  • Rose Jenkins

    I love Peter Capaldi as the Doctor and have a feeling that Pearl Mackie will make a great companion…
    Chris Chibnall has said already I believe that he will be working with PC so I’ll believe magazine stories when I see them from another more reliable source….